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Reader Mail: AMoL progress bar

To start off, I wanted to mention that the personalized ELANTRIS hardcover sale will end this Friday.  (March 21st.)  The books will still be for sale, but they'll jump from $22 to $25.  So if you've been planning to get yourself a copy, this week would be a good time!

Now, onto the body of the post.  For a while, I've been thinking that I'll probably have to give up officially on answering all of my email.  Following the WoT news, it has grown increasingly difficult to find time to respond to everyone who has been so kind as to contact me.  We shall see.  For the time being, I got an interesting email the other day, and I thought others my be curious to hear my answer.  The email was as follows:

Will you be posting a progress update of sorts on your page? I understand there is a large refining and editing process to overcome and publishing and distribution, but I think I speak for a lot of us when I say that knowing it's finished would be a tremendous load off our shoulders. Any plans for a method to let us know about your progress?

It's a good question.  As many of you may know, I have progress bars on the front of my website showing how far I've gotten on whatever project I'm currently engaged in.  I've got one now listing how far along I am in my re-read of the series.  (Finished CROSSROADS OF TWILIGHT, by the way, and am now reading A NEW SPRING.)

Will I do this for Book 12?  I'm planning to, but with a few caveats.  The thing is, it's hard for me to judge how long this project will take.  It's unlike any book I've ever worked on.  With my own novels, I've gotten to the point where I can sit down and plot them and know roughly how long they will be before I start.  (I generally shoot for about 200k words in length for my epics, 50k for Middle Grade books, 80-90k for a YA novel.)

I don't know how long AMoL is going to be, though.  That's going to present a problem for running a progress bar of how far along I am.  (The current program we have is percentage based, and I won't know what percentage is done if I don't know how long the novel is going to end up being.)

Right now, my goal for the book is 300k minimum.  Looking at the material Mr. Jordan left behind and the story that needs to be told, that's a realistic size to start with.  This wouldn't make the book the shortest in the series, though it wouldn't be the longest either.  It would be right in the middle. 

I'm expecting it to go longer than that, to be honest.  Mr. Jordan himself often said of this book that it would be as long as it had to be, even if Tor had to invent a new binding for it!  From what I've seen of the material, I don't think that's going to be necessary--I think he was responding to worries of the fans that he wouldn't tie the novel up in one volume.  From his outline, writings, and other work on the project it looks to me that he was planning it to be in the 300-400k range. 

So, I'll probably start the progress bar assuming the book will be 300k long, then update it later when I have a better idea of its length.  I will be needing to go and touch up the sections that Mr. Jordan wrote.  (They are in rough draft from.  As I've mentioned, I intend to leave them as pristine as is possible for the novel, with as minor editing as is possible while still maintaining the integrity of the novel.)  Therefore, I'll start the bar at 0%, and once a section of pages is touched up or written by me, I'll update accordingly.

(For you trivia buffs, the longest book I've ever written was 306k long.  It was THE WAY OF KINGS, which was the book I wrote right before MISTBORN.  The first draft of WELL OF ASCENSION was second, topping out at 258k in first draft form, though we cut it to about 245k before it went to press.  So yes, AMoL is going to be the longest book I've ever worked on.  Though, since Mr. Jordan left large chunks of writing for the book--including much of the beginning and ending--I don't know that this will technically be the longest book I've written, assuming you count only words I myself wrote.)

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From: (Anonymous) Date: March 16th, 2008 01:17 pm (UTC) (Link)

Mr. Sanderson

When will you tell us that how much percentage of the book is RJ's work and how much yours?
From: [info]monkeysloth Date: March 16th, 2008 11:13 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Mr. Sanderson

From: (Anonymous) Date: March 17th, 2008 06:16 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Mr. Sanderson

20%, 50%, 70%? It's a simple question.
mistborn From: [info]mistborn Date: March 17th, 2008 07:09 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Mr. Sanderson

It is indeed a simple question, but I'm not sure I can give a simple answer. How much did Mr. Jordan do, and how much will be mine? Well, what specifically do you mean?

One way to approach it would be to do a percentage based on pure wordcount. What percentage did he finish, and what percentage do I have left to do? Unfortunately, this is really tough to answer for all of the reasons I mentioned above--I can't know what percentage will be mine and what percentage his until the book is done, as that's the first time we'll have a complete wordcount. If you count the words he left behind, that could be 50%, it could be 10%. It all depends on how long the final product is.

Beyond that, going by wordcount is a poor method in this case. Let's say, for sake of argument, that Mr. Jordan hadn't written a single word, but still left an outline and notes on what was to be included in the book. If I were to follow that outline exactly and write the book as indicated, step-by-step, what percentage of the book then would be 'his' and what percentage 'mine?' I'd say that his outline would have more influence over the book than my words. You could argue that the book was 100% his. Yet, you could also say that I did 100% of the writing.

Unfortunately, the actual case is far more complicated than that. Mr. Jordan DID leave behind large chunks of writing (thankfully) and they are spaced across the book, concentrated at the beginning and ending. He also left an outline, but it has holes in places. Some sections of the outline are very detailed, but in others there is only a sentence to indicate what will happen. In some places, there is nothing--just an assumption that character A gets to location B because of the different scenes contained in the outline.

This book will be a collaboration. In a way, I'm like the person who tries to restore a painting of which we only have a chunk remaining. None of the book is mine and all of the book is mine at the same time. In the end, after all that, my guess would be to say that 75% will be Mr. Jordan and 25% me, though I'll be doing a much larger chunk of the actual writing than that percentage indicates.
From: (Anonymous) Date: March 17th, 2008 10:26 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Mr. Sanderson

Thanks for your honestly (and long) respond but Go back to work!

Do not spend your precious time to me.

Thanks again.
From: (Anonymous) Date: March 16th, 2008 03:33 pm (UTC) (Link)
max 400.000 words?????

Short. Too short.
mistborn From: [info]mistborn Date: March 17th, 2008 07:18 am (UTC) (Link)
At 400k it would be the longest WoT book in the entire series. That is too short?

I understand your sentiment, honestly. We've all been waiting a long time for this book, and Mr. Jordan indicated that it would be as long as it needed to be in order to bring the ending we've all been waiting for. We all want a nice thick volume which will round out the series and fit with the others. I intend to see to it that those requirements are all satisfied.

However, I DON'T intend to artificially inflate the size of the book simply because fans expect this novel to be a certain length. That wouldn't do the book any credit. My goal is to make certain that Mr. Jordan's vision for this book is brought to fruition, not to invest my own ideas, plots, and goals into the novel. I will use the outline, then extrapolate some plots which I decided (based on the narratives of the previous books and the direction of his wife) that Mr. Jordan was planning to deal with in this novel. I will do what it takes to make a satisfying ending.

But this book has to remain his, and not mine. Perhaps that means it will end up a tad shorter than if he had written it. However, better that than having me add in unnecessary plot lines of my own for the single goal of lengthening the book to make it LOOK more weighty. That would threaten to change the direction and focus of the book away from the way he had planned it to be written.
From: (Anonymous) Date: March 17th, 2008 10:29 am (UTC) (Link)
Repeat myself:


Thanks for your honestly (and long) respond but Go back to work!

Do not spend your precious time to me.

Thanks again.

From: (Anonymous) Date: March 17th, 2008 10:41 am (UTC) (Link)

where have all the cowboys gone?

The longer the book is, we can get more PoVs like: Rand, Min, Aviendha, Nynaeve, Lan etc., whose almost disappeared in last books.
marc_allan From: [info]marc_allan Date: March 16th, 2008 06:08 pm (UTC) (Link)

!!!!!

Don't worry about the email--people will understand. For that matter, don't worry about the frequency of LiveJournal updates---people may not show it, but they will understand. (Read Robin Hobb's rant about blogs if you need any motivation!!)

The status bar thing is a good idea, I suppose....as long as you don't mind changing the status on a whim! Wouldn't want to pigeon-hole you in any way, shape, or form.

Good luck with the length of book....the tome will be worth it.
From: (Anonymous) Date: March 17th, 2008 04:01 pm (UTC) (Link)

I guess the real question a lot of fans have

... is what's the rough estimate of the word count/page count Mr. Jordan had written/rough drafted for AMOL - outline and notes excluded.
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Brandon Sanderson writes epic fantasy novels for Tor Books. Find his novels, MISTBORN and ELANTRIS in any fine bookstore. More information on his website.
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